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looking to try BO, would like some advice :)

November 1, 2015, 8:11 pm
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Hi all!
I've been curious about NBE for a while and have lurked around on and off for a while.
A bit about me, I am 24 and have a mirena IUD. I have tried ainterol PM capsules for nearly a year and PM didn't seem to bother my BC coverage however it made my cycles irregular. In terms of growth I don't feel like it did too much at all but it wasn't doing anything adverse so I just kept taking it till I ran out.
Sooo now I'm keen on trying BO Tongue
I think I'll take the swansons brand to start with to see if I respond to BO at all.
However I'm pretty confused with all the extra supplements people seem to be taking with BO.
Is it reasonable to see growth with just BO and massage and upping protein intake? Or should I start BO with other supplements as well?
I have read that PC can be used in the second half of the cycle to 'balance hormones'. Is this usually necessary?
Also is it likely BO will affect my mirena IUD?
Sorry for all the questions, I realise the NBE journey is a greatly individual thing however I would really like to get some input and hear people's experiences Smile
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Is BO making me sick?

November 3, 2015, 5:04 pm
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I have been taking swansons raw glandular, one pill a day, for the last month. This is the first time I have gotten my period while on BO. I haven't had any side effects, but today when I started my cycle I got extremely sick when I tried to eat, immobilizing sick and it lasted multiple hours. This happened once before when I was in my teens and not doing any NBE at all.
I feel like at such a low dose of only one pill a day it shouldn't be the cause. Could BO be making me sick/has anyone else experienced this? Or could it just be a weird coincidence?
Looking for some insight.... before I got sick I had planned to up my dose to 2 pills a day on this cycle, but I don't want to hurt my body in this process!
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Bovine ovary as a topical/transdermal application?

November 8, 2015, 8:50 am
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Has anyone tried making a booby batter using bovine ovarian extract? Are the particles small enough to be used transdermally?

Thoughts and inputs?
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Growth companion to B.O.?

November 8, 2015, 1:25 pm
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We have all heard that you shouldn't mix pm and bo.
A couple of sites I visited recommend using lotions that contains volufiline or voluplus, both apparently made from nutmeg.

Has anyone tried or experienced anything from either brand, or know someone who has?
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BO, DNA & Cancer

November 14, 2015, 10:41 pm
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Sisters, both genetic & mtf,
I'd like to bring some food for thought before you jump on the BO wagon. Just moments ago, I replied to a thread where a girl mentioned she was recently diagnosed with a form of cancer (leukemia). I shared my thoughts and prayers with her because, I too, was diagnosed with leukemia last Sept. As a new cancer patient, I found the most useful thing I could do was educate myself about it. First, we all know that leukemia is cancer of the blood. And what I learned was leukemia is when there is an abnormality in our blood cells. The type of abnormality determines the type of leukemia. I could go into a full discussion about the various types, their symptoms, treatment, and possible causes. But I won't to save time and save your eyeballs from reading this small font. But I will share some knowledge from different sources I have collected.

A gene is a segment of DNA containing the code used to synthesize a protein. A chromosome contains hundreds to thousands of genes. Every human cell contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, for a total of 46 chromosomes. A trait is any gene-determined characteristic and is often determined by more than one gene. Some traits are caused by abnormal genes that are inherited or that are the result of a new mutation. Proteins are probably the most important class of material in the body. Proteins are not just building blocks for muscles, connective tissues, skin, and other structures. They also are needed to make enzymes. Enzymes are complex proteins that control and carry out nearly all chemical processes and reactions within the body. The body produces thousands of different enzymes. Thus, the entire structure and function of the body is governed by the types and amounts of proteins the body synthesizes. Protein synthesis is controlled by genes, which are contained on chromosomes.

Now that I just dished out a few minutes of bathroom reading material you're probably asking where am I going with this. I'm getting to that.

We all have the same desire here; to change our body to a desired shape and to feminize ourselves by modifying our characteristics. In order to do that, we must change our DNA by forcibly modifying our genes and chromosomes to develop the desired trait (breasts). The new trait is the direct result of the change made at the cellular level. There are a variety of methods for accomplishing this but let's just focus on the glandular method. I'm no doctor or expert but will attempt to help with what little I do know.

When we try to change our body with BO, we are ingesting the chemical makeup of the ovaries of a cow. That includes the proteins, enzymes, and all the other compounds that makeup "cow DNA". And inside that "cow DNA" are a number of other things like estrogen and other hormones, the building blocks for feminization. So essentially, you could possibly say we are modifying our own DNA with "cow DNA". Now this may not bother some people, but it doesn't give me a warm fuzzy, especially after learning that cancer/leukemia is caused by abnormal or mutated cells. Believe it or not, everyone has some degree of abnormal cells. We're all born with them but it's a matter of if or when they increase enough to trigger cancer/leukemia. To add complexity, cows are exposed to all kinds of environmental conditions, both man-made & non-man-made. For example, do you know where the cows came from that are in your bottle? Did they graze in the fields of Chernobyl? Just kidding but do you see where I'm coming from? What kind of feed were they fed? Did it have preservatives? Did the cow ever suffer from any diseases? We're drugs or inoculations ever administered? What abnormal cells were they born with even if they are healthy bovine?

You get my point. Now you see where I'm going with this!

I'm no stranger to this either. I once tried BO for a few weeks up until my diagnosis. Now let it be clear, I'm NOT saying BO caused my leukemia as the cause is still unknown but I want to raise awareness that when you ingest something from another living organism such as an animal you take on the risks associated when modifying your DNA with that of an animal. Besides the risk, has anyone ever had a nightmare of growing long ears, a tail and a milk pouch? Again just kidding but we are talking DNA here.

In conclusion, please be careful of what you wish for and stay safe and healthy, sisters.
Warm Hugs,
Erin
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BO not working!?

December 15, 2015, 4:10 am
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Hi all,

I have been taking BO for two weeks now, but I can’t feel anything in my breasts. Is this normal? I am taking Swanson 500mg in the morning and 1000 mg in the evening.

I hope someone can help me with this.
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Begin BO during period?

December 28, 2015, 12:03 pm
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but should I begin a BO program on the first day of my cycle? I just got Swanson´s BO and want to try it out. Thanks everyone!
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Has ANYONE Gotten Sick From BB?

January 5, 2016, 11:29 am
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Hi All!

I know everyone here is searching for answers, and trying to change their bodies by developing the breasts they always wanted and so hoped for growing up. I was one of those people several years ago. After having my first child, I was dissatisfied with what nature had left me, and I searched high and low for a "natural solution" in an attempt to avoid surgery.

I ended up taking Bountiful Breast for 2 years. During that time I became EXTREMELY sick. My gut was destroyed, and so was my immune system. I have the medical history to back this up. Fast forward several years later, and I am finally closer to living a "normal" life - though I still experience residual symptoms. It has taken a long time for me to get my health back, and needless to say, the small positive results I did see in terms of breast growth were NOT permanent to say the least.

If ANYONE has gotten sick from taking Bountiful Breast specifically, please private message me. I assure you, I am here to provide support and help. I would greatly appreciate if anyone would come forward, there is power in numbers.
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BO for me?

January 15, 2016, 4:01 pm
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Hello everyone Smile I have been thinking about BO for a while but I am not sure if it is right for me, I am hoping some seniors could give me advice.

I had a hormonal issue (an ovarian cyst) that caused me to lose weight in my breast, 2015 i've got it under control because it ruptured (tmi sorry)

Just out of high school my skin changed and I had rosacea and very bad blotching acne-- my skin is now 99% clear, but that was a horrible time for me.

I am looking to change the shape of my breast seeing as they're already back to their old size. My breast may have grown back but my issue with my breast is the shape. Just because you gain fat back into the breast doesnt mean it will be in the same proportion it was in before you lost that fat Sad -- so even if I may have fixed my hormones, the weight i've lost from the hormonal imbalance is why the shape might be different. The fat is displaced.

So I am thinking BO might help my shape-- my questions are..

I really dont want to be put back into puberty mode because it was such a hard time on my skin-- what are the odds of that happening again? if I get off BO, would it stop? Sad I am super scared about it.

and is it smart to take BO with a hormonal issue like mine?

I know everything is a chance, everyone is different, etc etc but I have been reading some threads on here that women got very sick and even got PCOS while on BO (ugh) just, is it worth it?? Huh Sad
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Bovine ovary & missed period

January 17, 2016, 5:45 am
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Hi everyone, I am new here and I started Bovine Ovary last month and I have some questions about it.

I was wondering if i should take Bovine Ovary during my follicular or luteal phase.
I experienced a lot of swelling when I took it during my luteal phase. But, my period did not come, which made me worried. Then, a month later, i tried BO during my menses and follicular phase, but I didnt experience any swelling.

Is there a way for me to take BO during the luteal phase without missing my period? Should I take herbs to increase my progesterone? Thank you in advance.
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Looking to start BO

January 19, 2016, 9:04 am
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Herbs havent really worked for me in the past as far as NBE goes, and PM has given me all kinds of nasty sideeffects.

I am almost ready to commit to starting BO with collagen, but I'm a little worried about weight gain, especially in my hips and butt. I already have enough in those places.

I know when I was in puberty the first time, I actually lost alot of weight everywhere else.

IF I do gain, do you think it would be detrimental? Should I give it a shot?

Right now I've resorted to retesting my herbs and now PM to see if time has changed anything and I'm pretty miserable with the headaches. X.X
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Will BO work with weight loss?

January 24, 2016, 1:39 pm
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I'm attempting to loose weight and raise my metabolism instead of letting myself blow up. Is it still going to work like its supposed to? Or should it, rather?
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How can i raise my body temperature

February 2, 2016, 9:10 pm
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I have low basel body temperature betweem 96.2 to. 97.2 (35.9 to 36.2)
Its said that the minimum effective temperature of BO is 98.2.

Do u guys have any experience raising your temperature?
Is that possible BO can work my body temperature?

I tried to take coconut oil before, but it upset my stomach ...
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BO AND PM

February 7, 2016, 4:53 am
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Hi everyone,
I am using BO by bountiful breast for a month now and don't see any changes at all.
I have almost no cleavage - 34 AAAAAAAAA ( sign). I am 35.
Any ways, I contacted BB ( jules) and she recommended adding Godiva ( based on Maca and PM) which they are launching on their website and allegedly it boosts the results of BO.
I am quite confused now as they have advocated an opposite view on their site before, I.e no e. herbs Huh
So what's your view on this?
Thanks
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Question about Vitamin Power BO

February 27, 2016, 4:03 pm
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Question about Vitamin Power/BO
September 13 2006 at 4:02 AM chloe (Login chloe105)
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I have read several of the threads about BO. Does anyone know if 1800mg per dy is a standard amount needed for breast growth b/c the Vitamin Power brand is 150mg per tablet. That would be quite a few pills.




HonEB
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Re: Question about Vitamin Power/BO
September 13 2006, 2:27 PM

vitamin power is not the only brand that sells BE. there is D&E which has a 500mg/pill suppliment. there is Herbal Stimulant which has a whole range of suppliments with BO in it starting at 200mg-500mg/pill. there is also Ultra Glandular which has a 200mg/pill suppliment. most of these bo brands were not designed specifically for NBE and BO is usually taken at low dosages. i have to say that BO doesnt have the best track record so if this is your first try at NBE make sure you understand that what you hear or see other's experience is usually a fluck that cant be explained. no one knows how BO works. you will hear talk about it having progesterone or that its actually helps to stimulate estrogen but like i said no one knows. no one knows how much if any of these hormones are in BO. all the OTC brands of BO are not standerdized for anything. so pretty much at the end of the day you are sitting back poping cow ovaries. and if you are counting on info from Bountiful Breast then let me tell you that these guys are in the business to make money. they dont care about proving anything to anyone. some of their b/a pictures and testimonials are questionable and even they cant give educate advice about how to take their product. ive spoken with one rep and i asked questions like " how come they changed their pill mgs from 300 to 500" i noticed that they also edited testimonials to suit this change. at one time BB had testimonials from women who left email addresses. i emailed all of the women and got no response and most of the messages got sent back to me. they never give you a straight asnwer to any tough questions and the even admit that they dont care to prove their products effectivness( the dont admit that they dont want to do clinical studies because it costs money or because they know their product doesnt work 98% of the time.)

all in all if you are comfortable with all this info and you still want to take BO then at least you have many choices, all of which are cheaper then Bountiful Breast. 1800mg is usually standard but ramp up may be needed because quality and effectivness will shift slightly from brand to brand and pill to pill.



emmie
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September 13 2006, 5:53 PM

i am trying the bo method as well, seeing michelle chois improvements. i went to http://www.botanicalbeautylab.com to order mine (they only accept paypal). their supplements are specifically for be so they are in larger doses, and three months is 77 dollars, so it isnt TOO bad for an experiment, right?

i will let you know how my progress goes (they arent here yet. things take FOREVER to find me in the mail and i only ordered them last week)... please do the same if you go this route!

good vibes...




HonEB
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Re: Question about Vitamin Power/BO
September 13 2006, 11:08 PM

Vitamin Power is the same BO as the one that fawn sells at botanicalbeauty and no its not specifically made for NBE uses its an ovarian health suppliment and the pills are 150mg/pill. the price for VP compared to bountifulbreast is actually reasonable. for one month of BB you have to pay 150 bucks. but on the flip side you have to swollow up to 12 horse pills a day.

herbal stimulat and D&E are great alternatives because they are still very cheap. for NBE you get abut 100 pills at 500mg/ pill for 10 bucks. i dont know if they accept paypal but the may take money order. you might have to check and see. if you take 2000mg of BO a day you get just under a 1 month supply. and you take 4 pills a day instead of 12.



chloe
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Re: Question about Vitamin Power/BO
September 15 2006, 1:04 AM

Thanks for responding. I have tried individual herbs for 4 months without any growth. I do not think that everyone responds to individual herbs. So this is my last shot. If this does not work I will probably just be content with what I was born with.

I have already bought the VP so I will finish this before ordering any of the others.



emmie
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September 15 2006, 4:58 PM

you are right, honeb... i just got about a gajillion bottles in the mail for a three month supply!

ah well. live and learn. now i have a lot of bottles, a lot of pills, and hopefully a lot of growing to get through!
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Is 750mg enough for growth?

March 27, 2016, 7:27 am
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Hi everyone! I've been taking bovine ovary (2x 250mg swansons pills a day) for maybe 2 months now and haven't seen any results. I've recently upped the dosage to 750mg a day - is this enough for significant growth? For those that have had success with BO, how much did you have to take?
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Mental help while on BO.

April 18, 2016, 5:28 am
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From 4/10/16 to 4/16/16 I'd been in an alarming state.
I could not control my emotions.
I had no focus or drive. I couldn't seem to get anything done.
I even thought about suicide.
Out of nowhere, I would start to cry uncontrollably.
I almost lost it in front of my boss on the ride home.
I had to come out to a very close friend. She knows everything about me now and my plans to transition.
I texted her on the ride home with my boss and she told me to come right over. As I got to her house I couldn't hold it back anymore. She opened the door and I finally lost it. I was in full crying mode. I couldn't stop for about 15 minutes. She asked me what started it. I told her What I was doing at the time. Nothing stressful or emotional. Just my usual work. Well she dug very deep and like I said I finally came out of the closet. I talked to my mother later that night and I told her that it's been a emotional roller coaster ride. Ups and bad downs. Now she doesn't know what I'm doing. But has noticed my breasts. She just thinks my hormones are off and the upcoming doctors visit will help. But mom said that the way I'm feeling is like a woman who is on her monthly minus certain body parts. This got me thinking, how can this be. I'm a biological male.

This is what I'm taking.
BO, three pills in the morning and three more at night.
PM, three pills in the morning and three more at night. I make my own pills size 000.
Saw palmetto, three in the morning.
Fenugreek, three in the morning.
PC cream in the morning.

I would appreciate any help or thoughts you can give me.
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A Few Safe Supplements for BO Programs

April 19, 2016, 7:17 am
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Our BO section is scarily lacking. As such, I have taken it upon myself to experiment with certain supplements to assist growth while taking BO. Wink

First things first. I take a multi daily to ensure my body is happy. If your body is happy, it can worry about growing secondary things.

Krill Oil- It's a strong source of Omega 3s and doesnt make you smell terrible. These kinds of fatty acids are absolutely essential to growth. And no, they don't make you gain weight. Rolleyes I take one a day. (300 mg)

L-Tyrosine- Unlike salt-based supplements, it does not make you gain weight while raising your temp. BO had not worked for anything besides my butt until I took these. I've redistributed much more nicely since. I take one for every two BO pills (500 mg)

MSM- I started taking this stuff for my hair and joints. Bonus points that it helps make my boobs fabulous and full. It's a naturally amazing source of collagen that works a thousand times better than actual collagen pills. I find the collagen pills do more for my skin than anything, and that result is temporary. I take two a day.(2,000 mg)

Biotin- True facts I don't know what this does for boobs. I started taking this for hair solely, but I remember reading several times on here that this helps for boobs, so for those who know, it works fine with BO.Blush I take one a day (10,000 mcg)

Pituitary glandular - This kickstarts your growth and sends it into maximum overdrive. This product may as well be essential to any BO program. I take one per one BO pill. (80 mg)

folic acid - This vitamin is absolutely essential for NBE and breast health. I take one pill daily. (800 mcg)

Sheep placenta - While I am still unsure if I will be continuing to use this product when the bottle has run out, this is a strong source of natural collagen. BO does not help with the volume of your breasts, merely the size. For this you need a supplement like sheep placenta, collagen, or msm. (400 mcg)

I also use a dab of PC cream once every couple of days for a minor boost.

And lastly, let me leave some parting advice-when it comes to NBE less can be more. When it comes to BO, that is very much the case almost always. If you are just starting, please work your way up to drastic levels. Start at one a day and take it slow. Your growth will work just fine,and you'll know when you need to step it up or pull it back. Your breasts will stall with too much and that will not help you.

I personally take BO x2 at least once a day, but no more than twice. This is something I have had to work my way up to, and I have been on BO for a few months now ( after a short break of stalling and getting only growth below before implementing l-tyrosine).
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why no porcine(pig) ovary suppliments?

May 8, 2016, 4:05 pm
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kind of curious.. bovine ovary is all the rage in breast enlargement pills, why don't they use porcine (pig) ovaries instead? I thought pigs were closer to humans than cows... they do use pig valves in valve transplants in human hearts, don't they?

Perhaps it would be too powerful? anyone have any possible insight on this one?
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Utrophin

May 11, 2016, 1:38 pm
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Standard Process Utrophin PMG® 90 Tablets

so i was wondering.. is there any benefit taking bovine uterus as well or instead of bovine ovary? since they are from the same area of the cow, is there perhaps any additional benefit taking the uterine glandular?

a synergistic thing maybe?
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